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From Proof of Health to UBI: How Everything Changes Post COVID-19, Feat. Joe McCann
From domestic manufacturing to economic nationalization by proxy to proof of health on a blockchain, a preview of the decade to come

From domestic manufacturing to economic nationalization by proxy to proof of health on a blockchain, a preview of the decade to come.
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Joe McCann currently works in cloud and AI at Microsoft and has spent decades in tech, crypto and open source communities. He recently wrote a piece called “A New, New World Order” about the second and third order effects of COVID-19.
In this conversation, Joe and NLW discuss:
- Localism and the beginning of the end of globalization
- The return of domestic manufacturing
- The "Roaring 20s" of Inflation
- The inevitability of Universal Basic Income in response to inflation
- QE infinity and the U.S.’s nationalization by proxy
- National health care as national security and why microbes are this decade’s terrorists
- Proof-of-health, and why it’s likely to be implemented on a blockchain
See also: The Questions We're Not Allowed to Ask, Feat. Hidden Forces' Demetri Kofinas
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Nathaniel Whittemore
NLW is an independent strategy and communications consultant for leading crypto companies as well as host of The Breakdown – the fastest-growing podcast in crypto. Whittemore has been a VC with Learn Capital, was on the founding team of Change.org, and founded a program design center at his alma mater Northwestern University that helped inspire the largest donation in the school’s history.
